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Dryer Seizures

4/7/2015

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Since we never know when these are going to occur it is virtually impossible to "catch one" on video. HOWEVER! We have a groomer, Deanne Olson Morris, who was determined to get one of these episodes on video so that the vet could see what had happened. She set a camera up in her drying area and turned it on every time she had a dog that had ever had one of these seizures before, or that she thought might be one that would. It took several tries, because of course, when you know a dog has one of these you do not want to provoke one so you take precautions to prevent them, but we do have the video now to study, learn from and share with new groomers and vets.

The reason I think this video is important to watch for all groomers is that if you watch it several times you can see what is happening before the seizure starts. The dog starts acting different. Pacing, stepping, and moving differently. Not every dog will do this, but every dog will have predictors. 



WARNING! This video shows a real dog having a real seizure while being dried. It MAY BE DISTURBING TO WATCH! 
If you have been grooming for any period of time you are likely to have seen this happen before. 

You are drying a dog you have groomed many times before, usually a dog that is getting older but not always, and out of nowhere they start pacing, screaming and acting like they have no idea who you are, what you are doing or what is going on around them. You struggle to turn off the dryer and hold onto the dog (if you are lucky you have someone who can help) and do everything you can to calm them down.

Nothing works. You have to hold the dog until the episode stops and hope no one gets hurt. It can be scary if you are unaware of what is going on. They can last anywhere from a few seconds to several minutes and nothing you do will stop them once they stop. They have to resolve on their own.

What has just happened? Most of us refer to these as dryer seizures. 

There are many theories as to why these episodes occur. 

Some people think it is the sound of the dryer that triggers them, but I am beginning to doubt that. The way my shop is set up, the dog that are bathed are placed in holding kennels in the same room as the dryers. I have never once seen a dog react to the dryers unless they were the ones being dried. Odd if the sound is what triggers it isn't it? 

So that got me thinking and I have been doing research on seizure triggers in humans. There are many things that will trigger a seizure in humans and every person has a different trigger (or series of triggers). Temperature fluctuations, like a dog having been bathed being dried with warm air, can trigger seizures. Moving air can trigger seizures in some humans and so can loud or abrupt noises, like the sound dryers make when the nozzle is moved on their bodies. There have even been anecdotal reports of humans seizing when a fan is on them, or a hairdryer is being used to dry their hair. 

When these seizures occur in dogs they usually occur after a few minutes of drying, generally, although not always, as you get closer to the head with the dryer. They remind me of the seizures reported on Medlink under the "hot water epilepsy" topic. Here is a quote from that page: Reflex epilepsies are classified as a group of etiologically heterogeneous epileptic entities, the common factor being precipitation of seizures by precise sensory and cognitive precipitating factors. The seizures may occur immediately with stimuli or after a short delay. However, this response should be consistent. Photosensitive epilepsies are so far the commonest in this group. However, seizures precipitated by touch, music, reading, eating, and other complex cognitive processes have also been reported (Wolf 2004).

Here is a link to reading more on reflex seizures. 

I don't want to get into the technical and medical aspect too deeply since I can really only find medical substantiation for humans, but it makes sense to me that there is similar response in dogs to those in humans. 

I have a poodle that we can dry up until we get to her head. the closer you get to her head (in retrospect) we noticed that she starts moving her head slowly from side to side and its obvious she is trying to get away from the dryer. If you catch it and stop, no seizure. If you do not catch it, then she goes full on screaming, thrashing, scratching, trying to get away from the person drying her as well. 

A 35 pound mix we do named Mikie? She starts picking up her legs in a "marching band" type step. She only does this a few times, but if you catch that predictor and stop the dryer she will not seize. If you miss it (and we did the first time or two) then she gets so upset that you will not get her off the table until she is done. She often urinated, pooped and in general was difficult to dry before the seizures stopped. Were they an indicator there was going to be a problem? I don't know for sure but I would guess yes. 

Brady is a cockapoo we do that you cannot even turn a dryer on him anymore. He is about 12. He used to be wonderful for grooming but now? He gets towel dried, placed under a fan and then after he is mostly dry finished with a stand dryer. No more problems. The last time he had a dryer seizure it took him almost 20 minutes to completely stop and was thrashing so badly that Brian, who was drying him, got injured in the process of trying to put him in a crate. He had scratches all over his arms, hands, face and he threw out his back as well trying to control him. However, Brady did not get hurt. Thankfully.



When using a Happy Hoodie, lay the ears down over the ear canal and secure them with the HH. It will muffle sound and speed up drying the ears and head.

While it is clear that there are no real warning signals for which dogs will seize, there are things you can do to minimize these seizures in dogs already prone to having them. Possibly.  

  • First of all DO NOT use a force dryer with a nozzle (especially a cone nozzle) to dry a dog that has had one. The nozzle will cause more stimulation both to the skin and to the hearing induced seizures.
  • Use cotton balls in the ears and if you have them add a Happy Hoodie as well. This will help tremendously if its sound induced or if, like in my own ears, the sound from the dryer buffeting as it moves triggers the problem. On a sidenote, I cannot be in a car with only one window open due to the air buffeting. I cannot open both back windows of my car either because the noise and pressure change makes me sick. 
  • Whenever possible, dry the dog with a stand dryer or hand dryer instead of a force dryer. 


When packing ears with cotton I tear the cotton ball into small pieces and insert deeply into the ear canal.

What do you do when it happens? 

  1. It is critical that you not continue to force through one of these episodes and continue drying the dog. It can be damaging for the dog if you do that.
  2. Turn off the dryer as fast as possible.
  3. Remove the dog as quickly as possible from the area the sound is in.
  4. Hold the dog if possible close to your body until they have calmed down.
  5. If that is not possible, place them in a kennel with a pad or towel for their own safety.
After the seizure has resolved, the dogs usually act as if nothing has happened and the groom can continue as normal. 

I always tell the owners that it happened, because most of my clients bathe and dry their dogs in between grooming and the hair dryer at home can also trigger this in some cases. I also suggest they mention it to the vet and watch for other seizures at home. Usually these are isolated and no other activity is ever noticed.

There are two schools of thought as to what to tell the owners. I DO tell people that they have had "what I refer to as a dryer seizure". I also tell them "the vet should probably be notified of what happened" and then go into as much detail as I can without scaring the client. I also offer my business card and tell them the vet is free to call me if they want more information. Some people say we should not use the term seizure, because we are not vets and that might be diagnosing. Personally. I don't see an issue with it, but if you are not comfortable then use the words "episode" or "incident". I will go into more detail with a client if they want more information about what happened, what caused it, what we can do to avoid it. Most are extremely grateful and NOT ONCE In twenty years of being a groomer have I had a veterinarian call me giving me a hard time or accusing me of diagnosing. Thanking me for the detailed information and concern? ABSOLUTELY.

I also try to let the owners know that their dog's health is more important to me than their appearance and as a result i cannot guarantee the quality of the groom will be the same if I cannot dry the dog completely. I have never had anyone complain about that because my clients appreciate that I put the dog's health and safety first.

Doing this blog post has been educational for myself and hopefully for everyone who has read it.

If you are a new groomer or one that works alone, you may have had no idea what happens when these occur or what to do about them until now.

Maybe what you learned here can help you or a dog in your care have a better, safer experience. Let's hope so!

15 Comments
Dawn
6/19/2015 01:28:30 am

What a great article. My dog had his first seizure while being dried. Have you ever heard of a dog just having seizures at the groomer?

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Chris Huls
12/8/2015 01:29:26 pm

Hello.
Nice article. I have a 16 year old poodle with symptoms of senile dementia. He has never liked the dryer. In the last 4 grooms, he has had "dryer" seizures on 3 visits....all with the force dryer being used on another animal. Before the seizure, he will pace if he can. He has a high-pitched continuous howl/bark just prior to the seizure in any case. He has no seizures otherwise. We are medicating him with Prozac daily (thunderstorms make him pace and wander, inconsolably) and Xanax (preparation for the day of grooming). I am still trying to decide if they are helping and am working on dosing options with my vet.
Bless his heart.

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Paul
12/21/2015 11:33:50 am

Our poodle had the same type of "episodes" after being groomed and we decided not to have him groomed anymore.. Since it lasted for a while, it might not be a typical seizure. Too stressfull. It happened at two visits. Ours lasted for hours after; he got better as the hours went on and calmed down... first was the barking and howling and the figidness. It started when the groomer used the blower near his face like others reported. We will bath, cut and let his air dry from now on. It has something to do with the his ears and face sine he is very sensitive to sound and wind near his ears.. hope this helps others.

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Jackie sammartino link
2/18/2017 10:50:23 am

Wonderful article. This just now happened to my 5 lb papillon during his blow dry with the mobile groomer. She said exactly what you said. He is calming down now. I'm a people nurse but never saw this in dogs.

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Paul
2/18/2017 03:11:22 pm

Looks like all of us have been going through this. We stopped taking our poodle to have him groomed and he has not had one dryer seizure since.
Just make sure you keep his ears away from any type of blasting air or even loud noises that is directed into his/her ears so to speak. It will cause your pet to go into a seizure if especially if it has happened before.
My dog has vistubular disease as well which is related to the inner ear and very similar to seizures.

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Jackie
3/27/2017 03:08:20 pm

My dog has had a few seizures at the vet and one with blow drying him. But today I was using the carpet cleaner and he was about 2 ft away and had one.

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tania
12/4/2017 03:56:07 pm

My dog had his 1st seizure 12 days ago he had convulsions. The convulsions went on for less than 2 minutes. I don’t know what triggers them, He gets fidgety prior to having a seizure and paces quite a bit, Winter is always the roughest time for him as he can have up to 1 seizure per week (not much when compared with what some other poor dogs). He was in worse shape on the meds than he was with the seizures, so we elected to not medicate him. i read hundreds of blogs and websites It was during a casual conversation with a friend that I learned about doctor Benson Wooley, she gave me his contact. I contacted he i explain everything to him and make purchase of the herbal product. we had full expectation that my dog will find total rest from seizures, 2 months using herbal treatment, his seizures totally reduced. After finishing his treatment, more than 1 years now, he has been totally seizure free. he have not experienced a single seizures after using Herbal treatment. his medicine does not have any side effect. If you want to contact him at mail: doctor_benson_wooley @outlook. com or call (904) 601-2741

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Anne
3/7/2018 10:38:01 pm

This article is so helpful. Sad it makes me feel to know that I caused this to my baby :0(
Yes high dryer, cone, please like I caused this. I am so thankful to my friend who has always been there for my baby to calm him and protect him. Thank you E means so much. I am so upset with myself after reading this but so thankful to have found such an informational article.. thank you thank you thank you

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Kay Davis
10/13/2018 02:52:33 pm

I have experienced dryer weizures with my clients before and today we have a dog in that cannot be blown dry because it happens to him every time. Today he was hanging out in my shop and actually had a dryer seizure while his sister was being blown dry across the room from him. After getting him calmed down we put cotton balls in his ears to muffle the sound of the dryer and he has been fine so far.

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Laura Carignan link
6/1/2019 10:29:11 pm

I'm curious. You got an episode on video to show a Vet. Did you and if so, what was their opinion?

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Bill Barns
6/27/2019 01:41:39 pm

My 11yr old miniature poodle had her first dryer seizure at the groomer's yesterday. Scared the crap out of me when the groomer told me about it... happened when the HV force dryer got to her head.

Well, as she has gotten older, she is in a lot of pain from arthritis. She is hard of hearing, yet shies away from the TV audio, she just doesn't tolerate loud noise.

#1, I'm not comfortable with the use of the word "seizure" for these incidents. I think these elderly dogs are just like us... not as tolerant and willing to put up with "stuff" anymore. So they get overstimulated and super-upset. I mean looking at the video, I could see the dog getting upset, lifting it's legs to try and get away from the blower, yet it can't because it's restrained. So it loses it's cool and starts vocalizing. I don't blame it for sounding off. But show me a medical neuroscan of the brainwaves when this is happening if groomers want to call it a seizure... sure seems like deflection to me.

The upshot is that if I can't afford to pay the extra $$ to have the dog dried another way, which takes longer and the groomer charges more, we will not be taking our elderly baby girl to the groomer, since she never has these incidents at home when being dried, carefully and gently, with a hand dryer.

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Mindy
8/12/2019 10:13:01 pm

I am very surprised they would charge you more to dry her a different way if it is to accommodate her needs as an elderly dog. I would never charge my clients more for something like that. They can easily dry her in front of a gentle fan while working on a different dog.

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LORI
8/23/2020 01:27:21 am

We have a quite a few dogs at our shop that we do not force dry, and we do not use cage dryers at all. So either the dog gets completely (as is possible) before the bath and towel dried. Or as stated before we just inform the owner the dog may not have a perfect haircut if we can't fully dry it. And not all are older "dryer seizures". Some dogs just cannot tolerate it and we are not willing to fight with a scared dog. Its stressful for the groomers and the animal.

However I do have issues with Owners that Know their dogs have had this issue in the past or are even diagnosed epileptic and do not tell us ahead of time. We do this job because we love animals, their care is our top priority, but not having that information is counterproductive. I honestly believe that some people feel if they tell you their dog has a medical condition you will refuse to groom their dog. And unfortunately I have had owners tell me they have been told this by other groom shops.

One new client told me she had taken her dog to a the same groomshop for 10 years. He just turned 16, and they told her your dog is too old if we groom it without anesthesia it will probably die. She was devastated.

I did her dog without incident. But I was able to take precautions because I had the information ahead of the grooming.

So please, owners if you have information relative to your dogs health by all means tell your groomer. If they are hesitant or unwilling to help you, then its best you find a more capable groomer anyway.

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Suzanne Grande NCMG link
4/7/2021 02:55:55 pm

As a pet groomer, I refuse to use HV dryers or vacuums in the salon, as a result, I no longer see these situations happen.

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Michelle
3/30/2022 04:26:11 pm

I am a groomer and my personal dog in the last 2 years has began to have what I call a panic attack while being bathed. It is very similar to this video but he gets extremely stiff and starts to sway to where he looks like he is about to pass out but that is when he starts to scream. I now have to bathe him half at a time so I do his body one day and face and head another. I tried to just bathe really fast but I was not fast enough. He is fine for the dryer; it is the water sprayer that triggers him. I figured my story would help in determining that it is more of the sensation than noise. He is a 13 year old shih tzu in pretty good health.

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